CHAdeMO Passes 1,500 Fast Chargers In U.S.

2 years ago by Mark Kane 29

Number of CHAdeMO DC Fast Chargers (estimated) - late December 2015

Number of CHAdeMO DC Fast Chargers (estimated) – late December 2015

EV Quick charging point (CHAdeMO) in Japan

EV Quick charging point (CHAdeMO) in Japan

CHAdeMO Association released an update for CHAdeMO fast chargers in U.S. – just in time for 2016 NAIAS.

The number stands now at 1,530 compared to 1,386 in late December and just 810 in early January 2015.

In other words, the number of CHAdeMO chargers in the U.S. increased by 89% over 12 months.

That’s good news for those CHAdeMO-equipped car owners (Nissan LEAF, Mitsubishi i-MiEV and Kia Soul EV or others like the Toyota RAV4 EV with JdeMo retrofit). Not-so-good news for future Outlander PHEVs owner, as the U.S version of the SUV will not be equipped with CHAdeMO.  /forehead slap

Is 1,530 spots enough (typically 50 kW)? No, but hopefully next year there will be substantially more.

With nearly 6,000 in Japan and over 2,750 in Europe, the total number of CHAdeMO chargers worldwide easily exceeds 10,000.

“The number of CHAdeMO DC Quick chargers installed up to today is 10353.
— (Japan 5960 Europe 2755 USA 1530 Others 108) last update 2016.01.11″

2016 Nissan LEAF & CHAdeMO plug

2016 Nissan LEAF & CHAdeMO plug

Tags: , , ,

29 responses to "CHAdeMO Passes 1,500 Fast Chargers In U.S."

  1. mustang_sallad says:

    InsideEVs monthly sales numbers show that CCS cars have started to outsell Chademo cars in recent months, significantly so in December thanks to strong showings from both BMW and VW.

    1. “CCS cars have started to outsell Chademo cars in recent months” may be true, but that means CHAdeMO cars have outsold CCS cars for 4 years plus! And if you also add Tesla Model S and now X sales, it doesnt look like CHAdeMO is so less in demand or sold less units.

      1. Bob says:

        Is it CCS cars that are outselling Chademo cars or cars from CCS supporting brands, which could have CCS but do not have it installed… like the REX i3 ?

        Bob

  2. Moshe says:

    also good for Tesla CHAdeMo adapters.

    1. Ocean Railroader says:

      I think the Tesla cars using the CHAdeMo charging stations are what is allowing the CHAdeMo station users to have a huge source of revue.

  3. Speculawyer says:

    Has CCS broken 100 yet?

    1. DonC says:

      More than a hundred in CA. They’re all over the place. Seems like all new stations are CHAdeMo/CCS dual charging.

      1. Brandon says:

        We are right around 450 CCS chargers in the US now. I record all fast chargers worldwide that are added to PlugShare, and that’s where I get that number. Maybe someone else has a source to give for the number of CCS in the US?

        1. Breezy says:

          The Alternative Fuels Data Center has a map. It tends to lag a bit behind PlugShare when it comes to adding stations.

          http://www.afdc.energy.gov/locator/stations/

          They’re showing 416 CCS charging stations, with a total of 631 plugs.

          1. jim stack says:

            Does anyone know how many are out of service? In the Phoenix area almost all are our of service made by Blink and ABB. Not many other manufacturers seem to be in our area.
            Some of the ABB run at much lower power with their advertised and labeled as 50 kW yet only run at 18-20 kW.

    2. Breezy says:

      The rate of growth in CCS chargers is actually rather spectacular. It’s a story that isn’t being told. There are some 630 in the US, although, unlike Superchargers, they haven’t been laid out in any centrally planned fashion.

  4. DonC says:

    At this point in time there are more CHAdeMo chargers than compelling vehicles that use CHAdeMo. Given the Koreans will likely go with CCS going forward, with Honda licensing GM technology, and Toyota looking at fuel cells, seems like Nissan will have to do the heavy lifting to change this.

    1. Speculawyer says:

      Koreans going CCS? Who?

    2. Brandon says:

      How pheasable would it be for Nissan to just add the DC pins below the j1772 plug on the Leaf to make it a CCS fast charge port?
      Anyone read an article on this or know what it might cost?

  5. ModernMarvelFan says:

    Once Bolt is here, it is going to really drive CCS demand.

    Of course, LEAF 2.0 would do the same thing.

    But either are kind of useless today in terms of long distance travel as most of the non-Tesla DCFC stations are all clustered around major metro area.

    1. Tom H says:

      “But either are kind of useless today in terms of long distance travel as most of the non-Tesla DCFC stations are all clustered around major metro area.”

      That’s the point, isn’t it? The raw number of how many chargers have been installed is, by itself, a not very meaningful metric. The more important question is WHERE they have been installed, WHEN they are available, and HOW well they are maintained.

      Until they start installing these along the Interstate highway system we are limited to local and regional travel only, almost regardless of the battery size.

      Only Tesla gets this (or cares).

  6. Ct200h says:

    Wait a minute! According to Automotive news and Mitsubishi chademo is chadNo in the USA. That’s why they are omitting chademo from the long overdue Outlander PHEV in the U.S. Market.
    Funny since there are 30 chademo units near me in northern Va , and maybe 2 or so SAE combo units.
    1500 in the USA and tons in Cali.

    At this point anyone selling ev’s on the east coast of the USA with an sae combo Connecter is selling an unusable unless product.

    1. GRA says:

      You really need to look at Plugshare, if you really believe that owners of CCS-equipped cars on the east coast have a useless product. Or the west coast. Or many other major metro areas across the country. What’s still lacking is any way to get across the center of the country using CCS, but the same problem applies to CHAdeMO, and in any case so far there’s no BEV with adequate range using either to make such a trip reasonable. 200 mile affordable BEVs will at least make such trips thinkable, if not very efficient time-wise, and both standards will need to start filling in the gaps (with higher max rates) ala’ Tesla. But far more important, IMO, is to make sure that 200 mile BEVs have adequate QC infrastructure that allows them to reach common weekend destinations. Multi-state trips make up a tiny fraction of auto trips.

    2. ModernMarvelFan says:

      “At this point anyone selling ev’s on the east coast of the USA with an sae combo Connecter is selling an unusable unless product.”

      Strong statement with no visions…

      CCS installation is increasing rapidly. Just give it another year and things will change.

      I see more CCS or dual standard stations popping up here more than just CHADeMO station in California.

      Also, don’t forget that significantly portion of CHAdemo stations are installed in the Nissan dealers which are pretty much “useless” to start with.

  7. Brandon says:

    One thing I’m glad to see is that EVgo seems to be heading in the direction of having more reliable chargers that have less down time. I noticed too that they are now using PlugShare to communicate about chargers being out of service or being fixed. When they start having 2 fast chargers per location reliability will be greatly increased as well.

    1. GRA says:

      There are already several eVgo sites with two dual-standard QCS and two which have four each, with room for more, so they, at least, finally seem to have gotten the message that Tesla has been sending.

  8. Dragon says:

    Considering how many manufacturers are using CCS instead of CHAdeMO, I predict CCS will win in the US in the long term.

    Doesn’t really matter as long term someone will release a CHAdeMO to CCS adapter and vice versa anyway.

    I wish manufacturers would opt to use Tesla’s elegant connector but Musk wants them to offer free charging to get on the Tesla network and I doubt any big auto will go for that. Too much potential for abuse by people who don’t want to pay for home charging. I think it will become a big problem when Model 3 comes out.

  9. Just_Chris says:

    This is great, more please, we need to really pack the metro areas before the longer range cars and higher powered chargers show up for longer distance travel.

  10. david_cary says:

    You know Chademo is very helpful even in major metros. Sheetz has taken to installing them around here and they charge too much but I wish my wife’s Leaf had a port since it would give her a reasonable emergency option. When we bought there were zero in the state and now 2 in 5 miles (although one of those is at dealer) and 5 in 10 miles.

    For the Tesla, it can be really helpful especially for quasi destination charging. We went 200 miles on a weekend trip not near superchargers. Went to dinner first night near a Chademo. Unfortunately it was down. On the way home, we ate lunch at a rest stop Chademo. Helped us avoid an out of the way supercharger.

    So don’t tell me they are useless. Also don’t tell me CCS sell more cars now. Tesla sells the most and we use Chademo.

    Now I don’t have a lot of use for the local Chademo but they do provide a backup if I forgot to plug in or had a surprise trip out of town. Luckily we have superchargers 50 miles out in 3 directions but if I had to go East where we don’t really have one.

    I agree that most trips are weekenders. They are for me at least. Between 120 and 250 miles usually. Even at those numbers, you need some charging. 120V helps but won’t charge enough in a weekend. So you either need L2 where you sleep or Chademo somewhere in town. Either one is a reasonable option.

    When that Chademo was down, I had to take a cab to a L2 overnight spot to make that weekend work. It was specifically posted not to park overnight so there was some stress involved let alone 2 cab rides. That was my first Tesla roadtrip. Several since without issues.

    1. Tech01x says:

      Obviously the right answer is more L3 DC (Superchargers) and more L2 AC destination chargers. The CHAdeMO L2 standard is too expensive to be that slow, or too expensive as compared to having many more plugs. Cheapest to install and cheapest to obtain energy is still usually L2 AC destination charging. Whichever of CCS or CHAdeMO or both that revises their standards for L3 should be an answer, but that doesn’t seem to be happening fast enough.

  11. Steven says:

    “And the best thing about Standards, is there’s so many to choose from.”

  12. Ed says:

    How many of these 1500 CHAdeMO charging stations are working?

  13. Ocean Railroader says:

    If I win the Power Ball I think would start up my own charging company and build 1000 to 10,000 DC Quick Chargers with CHAdeMo and CSS but each charging station would be able to charge four to ten cars at a time. I would also build this system of chargers along all Interstates and US Routes every ten miles and they would be open 24 hours a day. The chargers would also operate at 100 Kilowatts a hour.

    I would also charge half the cost of EVgo for the same amount of power. And if Tesla would let me I would like to have a pay to use Tesla Supercharger embedded in these pay to use quick chargers.

  14. Koenigsegg says:

    How do you pronounce CHAdeMO?

    Chade-Mo?