BREAKING: Tesla Supercharger Points Surpass CHAdeMO In North America

2 years ago by Eric Loveday 61

Tesla Lays Claims To Most Fast Charging Points In US

Tesla Lays Claims To Most Fast Charging Points In US

Tesla Supercharger

Tesla Supercharger

On December 17, Tesla’s Alexis Georgeson (communications/public relations specialist) told InsideEVs that 141 Supercharger stations were operational in North America.  Those 141 stations have 884 individual charging points.

Tesla Overtakes CHAdeMO

This day has been in the making for quite some time now and with official figures in hand, we can now declare Tesla the fast-charge king of North America.

CHAdeMO has been knocked off its pedestal by the Tesla Supercharger network.  Not in terms of charging locations/sites, but total charging points.

CHAdeMO currently lists 776 CHAdeMO chargers in the US.  That’s 776 charging points for CHAdeMO, since the units rely on a single plug at each location.  Even if we were to add the “54 Others” into the mix (assuming the “others” we’re all in North America, which they aren’t), Tesla would still be king.

Official CHAdeMO Count For U.S Listed At 776

Official CHAdeMO Count For U.S Listed At 776

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Tesla, on the other hand, equips its Superchargers with anywhere from 2 to 12 charging points per Supercharger location.

Thanks to the information provided to us by Tesla Motors, we can now definitively state that the Tesla Supercharger network has more charging points than CHAdeMO in the US.

Supercharger Growth Monumental

Let’s take a brief look back at the recent history of the Tesla Supercharger network.

Tesla’s tally was 570 charging points when its 98th Supercharger went live.  However, since the 98th went live, 43 more came online.  Those sites added 314 points to the network, thus bringing the grand charging point total for the Tesla Supercharger network to 884 (as of December 17). And that’s just in North America.  Worldwide, Tesla now has 298 Superchargers listed as online, with huge growth now occurring in both Europe and the Asia/Pacific region.

So long CHAdeMO, there’s a new king of North America’s fast charging network.  A king by the name of Tesla Supercharger.

Site – State  –  Charging Stalls (note: list includes only first 98 Superchargers in U.S., some sites may now have additional charging points added)

Buckeye, AZ Arizona 8
Flagstaff, AZ Arizona 4
Gila Bend, AZ Arizona 8
Holbrook, AZ Arizona 4
Kingman, AZ Arizona 6
Quartzsite, AZ Arizona 8
Yuma, AZ Arizona 8
Atascadero, CA California 8
Barstow, CA California 4
Buellton, CA California 8
Harris Ranch California 7
Corning, CA California 6
Folsom, CA California 4
Fremont, CA California 8
Gilroy, CA California 10
Hawthorne, CA California 6
Tejon Ranch California 6
Mt. Shasta, CA California 4
Roseville, CA California 7
San Juan Capistrano, CA California 7
Vacaville, CA California 8
Glenwood Springs, CO Colorado 6
Grand Junction, CO Colorado 6
Lone Tree, CO Colorado 4
Silverthorne, CO Colorado 8
Darien, CT Connecticut 4
Greenwich, CT Connecticut 4
Milford, CT Connecticut 2
Newark, DE Delaware 4
Ft. Myers, FL Florida 8
Port Orange, FL Florida 6
Port St. Lucie, FL Florida 8
St. Augustine, FL Florida 6
Macon, GA Georgia 8
Savannah, GA Georgia 6
Aurora, IL Illinois 4
Rockford, IL Illinois 8
Highland Park, IL Illinois 4
Normal, IL Illinois 4
Angola, IN Indiana 6
Mishawaka, IN Indiana 6
Goodland, KS Kansas 6
Hays, KS Kansas 6
Bethesda, MD Maryland 2
Hagerstown, MD Maryland 6
St. Joseph, MI Michigan 8
Albert Lea, MN Minnesota 4
Worthington, MN Minnesota 6
Las Vegas, NV Nevada 6
Hamilton Township, NJ New Jersey 6
Farmington, NM New Mexico 4
Gallup, NM New Mexico 4
Albany, NY New York 6
New York JFK, NY New York 4
Syosset, NY New York 4
Burlington, NC North Carolina 8
Lumberton, NC North Carolina 4
Plymouth, NC North Carolina 8
Rocky Mount, NC North Carolina 8
Macedonia, OH Ohio 6
Maumee, OH Ohio 6
Detroit Lake, OR Oregon 6
Grants Pass, OR Oregon 4
Springfield, OR Oregon 8
Woodburn, OR Oregon 8
Cranberry, PA Pennsylvania 6
Somerset, PA Pennsylvania 6
East Greenwich, RI Rhode Island 8
Santee, SC South Carolina 6
Mitchell, SD South Dakota 6
Murdo, SD South Dakota 4
Rapid City, SD South Dakota 4
Waco, TX Texas 8
Columbus, TX Texas 6
Corsicana, TX Texas 6
Huntsville, TX Texas 6
San Marcos, TX Texas 5
Beaver, UT Utah 4
Blanding, UT Utah 4
Green River, UT Utah 4
Moab, UT Utah 4
Nephi, UT Utah 6
Richfield, UT Utah 4
Glen Allen, VA Virginia 8
Woodbridge, VA Virginia 8
Burlington, WA Washington 8
Centralia, WA Washington 10
Ellensburg, WA Washington 5
Ritzville, WA Washington 4
Triadelphia, WV West Virginia 4
Eau Claire, WI Wisconsin 6
Madison, WI Wisconsin 3
Mauston, WI Wisconsin 6
La Crosse, WI Wisconsin 6
Pleasant Prairie, WI Wisconsin 8
Cheyenne, WY Wyoming 4
Lusk, WY Wyoming 4

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61 responses to "BREAKING: Tesla Supercharger Points Surpass CHAdeMO In North America"

  1. Big Solar says:

    It says 142 on the Tesla website

    1. Eric Loveday says:

      Yes…Tesla added one more since yesterday. Can’t keep up with Tesla’s pace.

      1. Big Solar says:

        Yeah, I just now got an email, Greenville Alabama is online.

        1. Darin says:

          142 supercharger sites and at each one there are 3-12 charging plugs that’s how they get their number.

          1. jstack6 says:

            1/3/2015 it’s now 151 Super Chargers. It changes almost everyday and that’s just in the USA.

    2. scottf200 says:

      Hat tip to GRA for keeping the full list on an MyNissanLEAF thread … ironically.

      Most recent full list here:

      http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9111&start=690

      Master list showing all locations, plus opening dates after 1/14 can be found here:

      http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9111&start=670

    3. Felita Carr says:

      6 more charging points for tesla are finished in hooksett NH. They are in a great location off of I 93 north and south in a brand new rest area. Tesla scored with this location.

  2. Wraithnot says:

    “Tesla, on the other hand, equips its Superchargers with anywhere from 2 to 10 charging points per Supercharger location.”

    The new Rancho Cucamonga supercharger has 12 charging bays.

  3. kdawg says:

    And don’t forget, Teslas can charge at Chademo stations w/the adapter too.

    1. ELROY says:

      I seriously hope they don’t camp out at single charger Chademo stations. That would be totally unfair to EVs like the Nissan Leaf which have very limited range.

      1. Dan says:

        It’s unfair for owners that pay more for Supercharger access to also use the publicly funded network paid for via their taxes?

        Few would want to pay more to charge slower, but doing this isn’t unfair. Complaints should be directed at Nissan to create a charging network of their own, or join forces with Tesla.

      2. kdawg says:

        I don’t think “unfair” is the correct term. It would suck for anyone else wanting to use that station, but it’s not unfair.

        Would it be unfair if a Leaf was fully charged and just sitting there camped out, not pulling any juice while a Tesla would have been charging the whole time?

        1. Stimpacker says:

          Don’t fight among ourselves. Instead, direct your wrath to the fool who thought that giving each Nissan dealer a single ChadeMO station constitutes rolling out a nationwide charging network.

          In my Northern California area, it’s USELESS. It’s in cities where my Leaf has plenty of range to get around. I want them along freeways with multiple stalls.

          1. Jim_NJ says:

            ^^ +100 ^^

            Looking on a map, most of the Chademo stations are in densely populated areas, where they aren’t needed. They need to be placed every 50 miles BETWEEN populated areas to make much sense.

            That is, unless Chademo’s are being used by people who don’t have at-home charging (apartments, condos, etc). But can you imagine a city with 1,000+ 80-mile BEV’s relying on one or two Chademo chargers?

    2. jstack6 says:

      Did the Tesla CHAdeMO adapter ever get released? A friend has had his on order for about 2 years now.

  4. ELROY says:

    There is a Tesla charging station at the Collection shopping center, Oxnard Ca. About 7 miles away from me!

  5. kdawg says:

    I wonder if/when CCS will surpass Chademo in the US? I think it’s slowly happening in Europe.

    1. scottf200 says:

      2015 bmw will proliferate fast chargers everywhere

      http://insideevs.com/2015-bmw-will-proliferate-fast-chargers-everywhere/

      1. Yes, BMW has delayed its official announcement of more chargers for GM and German cars, while Nissan has announced nearly doubling the number of CHAdeMO stations next year.

        The stations that BMW will install are largely 25kW ones. Nissan is 44kW to 50kW, and Tesla is 120kW-135kW.

        1. scottf200 says:

          I’ll buy both adapters for my Tesla.
          – CCS combo to Tesla
          – chademo to Tesla (chademo one has many problems so far in Japan)

        2. scottf200 says:

          I thought chademo ramped down to 25kW very fast when charging a LEAF, for example, the higher kW may not be that critical / big-deal it would seem.

          1. wraithnot says:

            I logged some data while charging my wife BMW i3 at a 50 kW CCS charger and found it took about 20 minutes to go from 20% to 80% which seems like a pretty typical charging session. Based on how the power tapered off, I estimate that it would only take 10 minutes longer to go from 20% to 80% with one of the 24 kW chargers BMW is planning to install. So they are actually a decent option for the i3 and almost certainly represent the best bang for the buck given how cheap they are.

            1. JohnT says:

              That’s true for today’s cars, but small-battery EVs are just a short-term thing – as the price of batteries drop, nobody will be driving an EV with <200mi range. Then the lower output "fast" chargers will be a liability and located in the wrong place.

              The more I see how CHAdeMO and CCS are going about it, the more I think Tesla has absolutely the right idea – fund the development of a long-term network by selling expensive cars to the rich, and then when the battery prices make selling similarly capable cars to the masses the network will be built for them.

              1. CAB says:

                I think you are right John. In fact, I’ll go so far as to say L2 public chargers are an interim solution “oops”. Indeed, the future would seem to be L2 chargers at home and work (where the cars sit for 8-12 hours at a pop), and DC fast chargers everywhere else. The current trend of L2 chargers at places where folks simply don’t want to spend hours is just goofy. The first time out it is a novelty, but it just gets old.

  6. pjwood says:

    That list of 98 had zero, for MA, VT and NH, when there are over 30 now physically installed. They had a 480v test generator, at Auburn, yesterday. Q4 growth, while not finishing their 2014 map, has been impressive. Here comes AWD.

  7. kubel says:

    I would be interested in knowing the total capacity of each network. From what I heard from Tesla owners, if another Tesla parks next to them at a SuperCharger station and plugs in, the available amperage will be shared. Is this true?

    1. wraithnot says:

      Stacks of superchargers are shared between two charging bays and the total power delivered to both cars can’t exceed some limit- apparently 135 kW for the newer superchargers. If you want to get a rough idea of total charging capacity, multiple the number of charge bays by 67.5 kW.

      The first car of the pair to plug in gets as much power as its battery can handle (up to 120 kW for an 85 kW car below ~35% state-of-charge) and the second car gets the remaining power (up to what its battery can handle). As the first car fills its battery, the power will taper down and the power available for the second car increases (even a completely empty car will start tapering after 12 minutes or so).

      In a worst case scenario where two completely drained 85 kW cars plug into shared charge bays nearly simultaneously and both want to completely fill up, the first car will charge just as fast as if no other cars were there and the second car will take approximately 25-30 minutes longer to charge.

      1. JohnT says:

        Not quite right – if a second car shows up, the first car is capped at 90kW (on a 120kW Supercharger, not sure about the division for 135) and the second car gets 30kW. As the power draw drops on the first one (as it must as the batteries get full), the power available to the second ramps up.

  8. kdawg says:

    FYI – Tesla finally updated their Supercharger map. As expected, a lot of the ones that were “by 2014” have now disappeared. Sadly for me, all of the ones in Michigan that were 2014, did not only disappear, but they aren’t even on the “coming soon”. They have been pushed to “by 2015”.

    1. AlanSqB says:

      Sorry to hear that, but the superchargers are a marketing thing and when your state is openly hostile towards Tesla and has basically banned them, I can see why it goes to the bottom of the list. Too bad owners like yourself have to suffer because of politics and outdated business practices.

      1. See Through says:

        Applying same rules to all car manufactures is ‘openly hostile’ ?

        1. AlanSqB says:

          No, but crafting a change to existing law with language that specifically targets Teslas business practices and passing it in the dark of night is.

        2. TomArt says:

          *sigh*

          We’ve been through this…most of the laws prior to Model S sales had language that was specific to prevent OEMs from competing against their affiliated franchise dealerships. Those laws did not apply to TMC because they never had any franchise dealership arrangements. As I recall, only 2 States had laws that prevented direct-sales by any OEM.

          After the success of the Model S, NADA got paranoid and got the laws changed in several of those states to change the language such that the ban applied to all OEMs, regardless of whether they had any franchise arrangements.

          Got it, yet?

  9. Taser54 says:

    Whelp, time for Chaedemo to quit. No sense in having that minority standard.

    1. kdawg says:

      LOL, I see what you did there.

    2. If “minority” is your standard, it won’t be Tesla Supercharger or CHAdeMO that will go away!!!

      The only one that isn’t even close is the GM and German car maker protocol.

      1. kdawg says:

        I think it went over your head.

  10. 894?

    Noticed a Supercharger station with 10 stalls is missing from the list. 😉

    Cabazon Supercharger
    Cabazon, CA
    http://api.plugshare.com/view/location/58947

  11. protomech says:

    “since the units rely on a single plug at each location.”

    Not true. The Blink stations I’ve see have two charging points per unit, and several locations I have seen have multiple CHAdeMO plugs.

    1. scottf200 says:

      What percentage of chademo locations have > 1?
      Less than 5%?

    2. Mike I says:

      There may be two plugs on the Blink CHAdeMO units, but I believe one has to finish completely before the other one will start.

      1. JakeY says:

        Yes, that’s true, the two connector Blink stations can only charge one car at a time and can’t split power like the Tesla supercharger stations can.

        1. See Through says:

          Which is better?
          Split power => charge twice as slow => both spend 1 hour
          Don’t split power = charge one after another at 30 mins each.

          1. Big Solar says:

            split is better because either car may not require a “full” charge.

          2. Josh says:

            Also, because charge rate tapers at higher SoC, the utilization is higher for all cases other than starting both vehicles at exactly the same time.

    3. The difference is ‘physical’ connections vs. ‘active’ (powered) connections.

      For Tesla Superchargers, all connections can actively deliver power. Connections are paired to a DC charger and rate of charging depends on SOC of each EV.

      For Blink (CHAdeMO) and most ‘dual standard’ (CHAdeMO and CCS) chargers, that have multiple physical connection points; only one connection is actively powered at a time.

  12. Spec9 says:

    Wow. That is embarrassing for the non Tesla EV biz.

  13. Tim says:

    You forgot Greenville, AL and Brandon and Ocala in Florida, and I’m sure others.
    Still mighty impressive list.

  14. BravelilToaster says:

    Enh, this is actually kind of a weaselly press release. While the Supercharger network is indeed better than the ChaDeMo network in the areas of actual usefulness in the real world, locations (for the most part), and availability (they have more than one charger per location in nearly all locations, because c’est la vie), they still don’t surpass the ChaDeMo network in actual number of locations. Just actual number of plugs, because every location has more than one plug.

    I’m still impressed (especially with how Tesla has been putting their chargers in the boondocks where they belong), but I’ll be more impressed when the day comes that there’s more Tesla charger locations than there are ChaDeMo locations. *Then* they can make the claim that they’ve exceeded ChaDeMo.

    By the way, here in British Columbia, the government has *mostly* managed to do ChaDeMo right, sprinkling the chargers where they’re the most useful, except for a few gaps (*cough* Hope *cough*) that prevent Leaf drivers from getting through a couple critical corridors. It seems that Nissan USA’s policy of only ever plunking the chargers down at their dealerships is nowhere near as effective a strategy as ours is.

    By contrast, Tesla has managed to get about the same coverage, but with fewer charger locations, because Tesla.

    1. Tech01x says:

      Tesla vehicles have enough range that they don’t need or particularly want many DCFC stations in town. L2 charging is sufficient to handle that case, especially since Tesla’s can charge at 10kW and 20kW on higher amperage L2 chargers.

      There are zero CHAdeMO DCFC’s currently installed in North America that make any sense at all. At complete waste of money that should have been spent on better and more complete L2 charging.

    2. Tesla will likely never have a similar number of locations as are required by CHAdeMO. Spacing between stations is about 1/2 the range of battery capacity. For CHAdeMO at highway speeds spacing is 40-60 miles vs 120-180 miles for Superchargers. The difference is ~3x in range so a network of stations will have ~9x (3×3) fewer station locations.

      This has little to do with charging speed as Tesla’s can also charge using CzhAdeMO stations. Charging times will be longer, but they only need to stop at every third CHAdeMO station location (on average).

  15. AlanSqB says:

    I’m certain that Tesla chargers probably exceeded WORKING CHAdeMO stations quite some time ago. Fewer than half of the CHAdeMO units in the state of Colorado are functional right now. It has been this way for months.

  16. The official CHAdeMO page doesn’t count every charger and sides with more than one charger are only counted once.

  17. ModernMarvelFan says:

    Another fact is that Most SC stations are accessible where some of the Chademo chargers are only accessible at the mercy of the dealers and certain hours…

  18. Josh says:

    The comparison that is more interesting is the total (or monthly) amount of electricity delivered. Utilization is really the measure that matters.

  19. Scott Franco says:

    141 Tesla stations beats 776 Chademo stations eh?

    I’m guessing you all didn’t get a stunning grade in math class.

    1. Mr. Electric says:

      It’s just more Tesla marketing crazy. Tesla is like a street fighter who’ll bite your ear off given half a chance. Be thankful they’re only almost-lying to you with their propaganda here.

    2. Ash09 says:

      Guess you missed the second sentence in this article:

      “Those 141 stations have 884 individual charging points.”

      Pretty sure 884 > 776.

      That said, Tesla’s network of chargers is placed strategically better than the Chademo network, because many of them are located in key locations scattered across the country.

      Chademo, in the US at least, is mostly restricted to densely populated areas where admittedly it will be used more, but you can’t go cross-country driving with it as easily like you could with a Model S.

      That may change in the future with more being built, and hopefully in more areas such as public rest areas or places with hotels/restaurants near freeways so EV charging can be more accessible.

      It’s a shame that there’s several different charging standards, which will make standardization more difficult. Hopefully future EV’s can be designed to accept any charging station you plug them into without too much hassle or cost.

      1. Scott Franco says:

        Didn’t miss anything. Its a nonsensical argument.

  20. CAB says:

    Even with all these stations, there are still a number of us left w/o an SC option. As an example, we live in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area. If we want to drive North to Oklahoma or South to either Houston, Austin or San Antonia we are covered with SCs. However, what we actually need to do for us is drive EAST to places like Paris, TX, Greenville, Sulpher Springs, etc. These are smaller towns for sure, but all use cases aren’t “big city to big city”…oh, and don’t get me started on destination charging!

    1. KiknGas says:

      Looks like OK, northern TX and southern KS are all getting a handful of SC “coming soon”, and AK and west TX in “2015”.

      In SE MN the closest CHAdeMO is 250 miles away. In that same radius there are at least 5 SC locations “open now”. Awaiting some logic to a disparate CHAdeMO network is probably futile. I don’t think the merits of what Tesla’s got are yet so clear that others fully appreciate it.