Bjorn Nyland Details His Model S Issues & Repairs From Delivery Through Present – Video

2 years ago by Mark Kane 37

Tesla Model S In Norway

Tesla Model S In Norway

Bjørn Nyland did great summary of issues and repairs of his Tesla Model S P85 from 2013, which covered an impressive 210,000 km (130,000 miles).

List of major and small problems that occured in few years is pretty long, but it’s a neutral outlook.

Famous drivetrain replacements were also included (Bjørn reached third unit stage), as well as battery pack powerswitch, on-board charger, CAN bus error, and many more.

“A detailed video about the issues and repairs I had on my 2013 Tesla Model S P85 from the day I received it until January 2016.”

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37 responses to "Bjorn Nyland Details His Model S Issues & Repairs From Delivery Through Present – Video"

  1. Tom says:

    Hes says that he had “something important to say at the end” What was that? I didn’t catch it.

  2. BraveLilToaster says:

    Hmm. While I’ve only done some 70,000 km in my Leaf, the amount of maintenance we’ve had to do has been exactly…

    – Change the tires to winters (and back)
    – Change the air filter.

    The dealership’s had to do their requisite “plug in the ODBII reader” stuff for the warranty and all, but there hasn’t been anything beyond that.

    Maybe someday when we reach 200,000 km, we’ll start having trouble with the… CV joints or something. I dunno. We’ve been astoundingly happy with the car so far.

    1. Murrysville EV says:

      Agreed on the Leaf. That’s also all I had to do over 26710 miles (43000 km), until I turned it in at the end of the lease.

      I’ve only test-driven a Tesla, but it must cast a powerful spell to gnerate so much customer loyalty with such an unreliable car.

      1. Nate says:

        To be fair, a lot of high end luxury cars are not as reliable. Also, if Tesla does a good job with customer service and the issues it beats dealing with dealership service departments.

      2. Djoni says:

        So much for me also.
        100 000 kilometer and I only had a power window switch replacement, both rear hatch opening support replace and one fog light that was loose at the delivery.
        Usual battery check and one preventive brake cleaning and lubrication.
        I am so glad that I bought such a reliable car.
        This video make me go away of acquiring a Tesla CPO, since they were early made.

        1. Djoni says:

          I am an happy Leaf owner

    2. McKemie says:

      Just the opposite experience here. After 2 years and 25k miles, my Leaf battery would not serve my needs. Nissan said “your battery is fine”. I bought a Tesla which, after 3 years and 70+k miles, still has 90+% of it’s battery capacity and has given me little other trouble.

      BTW, the purchaser of my Leaf just tried again to get the battery replaced as his range is 40-50 miles. “Your battery is fine” he was told.

      1. Djoni says:

        But it all depend upon condition.
        I have a 87% SOH left in mine and this is fine with me, but I couldn’t do much more than 40 miles (66 kilometers) last Saturday.
        But it was -29c° and I was heating the cabin full blast.
        Of course in summer I will go much further.
        So my battery is fine, it’s just too little energy content.

    3. ModernMarvelFan says:

      “Hmm. While I’ve only done some 70,000 km in my Leaf, the amount of maintenance we’ve had to do has been exactly…

      – Change the tires to winters (and back)
      – Change the air filter.”

      What about your Brake Fluid flush? Did you miss that from your owner’s manual?

    4. evcarnut says:

      70,000 kl is nothing on a new car…they need to pass the test of time as well.. However, Nissan has a pretty good trak record !Nissan may be the way to go !

  3. Norm Cutter says:

    I guess I’ve been spoiled by Honda,..I’ve forgotten what “repairs” is all about.

    1. jelloslug says:

      I wish the Honda I had would have been like that. The Dodge I had before it was a much more reliable car.

    2. evcarnut says:

      I’ve heard the new Honda’s are using CVT’s & they are terribly “unreliable” & expensive to maintain & fix when the warrantee expires ..I would avoid anything with CVT transmission ..CVT’s have been known to cause many people Lots of Grief….

  4. Chris C. says:

    Another monster video from Bjorn! Sir, we greatly appreciate your efforts but … some editing would help. Can someone who slogged through the whole thing give us a rundown?

    According to this TMC thread where it is being discussed:

    http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/24575-Bj%C3%B8rn-s-Tesla-Model-S-videos?p=1367960&viewfull=1#post1367960

    “Issues and repairs, short version: Lots of issues. Old early model. Newer cars don’t have nearly as many issues.
    Running costs, short version: Very inexpensive to run compared to similar sized large family cars.”

    1. sven says:

      Bjorn didn’t comment on running costs. He said that was the subject of his next video.

  5. JackDFW says:

    Both my 2013 and 2015 Leaf have had A/C line replacements. A/C stopped working. Other than that no other issues.

    I liked the video. Tesla’s looks like getting better each year. I look foreword to the upcoming Model 3.

    1. Khai L. says:

      Me too!! My 2013 leaf had its compressor replaced at 15k miles, and now the refrigerant line needs replacing (out of warranty too!).

      Although troublesome, I imagine this and the next tire replacement is all I’ll need until the brake pads need replacing at around 80k miles.

    2. ModernMarvelFan says:

      Do you have heat pump option?

  6. jm says:

    Regardless of Bjorn’s experience, it is still far, far better than my last and final MB experience. In 11,000 miles on a new 1997 S420, I had:
    – Transmission slip-shifting on the 2-3 upshift
    – Timing chains and overhead cam gear replaced due to massive amounts of noise (repair was so common, parts had to be backordered)
    – Radio antenna not hooked up at the factory
    – Steering alignment (zone rep suggested I just reduce the tire pressure on one side to fix it)
    – Paint damaged by “protective shipping coating” being removed by a orbital sander
    – etc.

    The whole experience cured me for life from ever buying another Merc. I sold it privately after fully disclosing all of the above. The new owners didn’t care as it was still under warranty. All of these quality and engineering issues are why the older W126’s hold their values better than the W140s.

    I’m inclined to give more of a benefit of the doubt to a early production Tesla than I was forced to give a 110 year old (at the time) established automaker who loved to trumpet their own engineering pedigree.

    Tesla is continually improving and will likely only get better in the future.

    1. evcarnut says:

      I think that M Benze was a fluke.. I’ve had 3 new MB’s in the past 21yrs so far so good,nothing ever major.. But I do all the proper maintainance Religiously..300,000kl now ie: still have the original brake Rotors & no Pedal Pulse..& no one believes me.. l o l

  7. AlphaEdge says:

    > “– Steering alignment (zone rep suggested I just reduce the tire pressure on one side to fix it)”

    That answer is unbelievable nuts! What was your reaction to that, and what was the final fix?

    1. jm says:

      It never did get fixed . . . I just lived with this and the other problems until It was sold. That kind of cavalier attitude from MBUSA is why I got rid of the car and even though it was my 4th new Benz, I never bought another one. It was replaced by a VW Passat with the thought that if I’m going to drive a POS, I might as well pay 30 cents on the dollar of what I’d paid for the S420.

      Funny thing – after 17 years, I’m still driving it and it’s had less problems than the Benz had in the first year! But if I can find a good home for it, the VW will be replaced by a Bolt or i3, if I can find a decent dealer, which is a tall order these days. My first try at getting an i3 BEV, the dealer wanted $80 as part of the dealership prep fee to “fill the gas tank.”. It just never ends.

  8. sven says:

    I’m confused, 230,000 km is 130488 miles. Does Bjorn have an extended warranty and if yes, is the extended bumper-to-bumper warranty longer in Norway than the additional 4-years/50,000 miles you get in the U.S..

    Are these repairs after 100,000 miles goodwill repairs, that Tesla is not obligated to do?

    Also, aren’t repairs made under the extended warranty subject to a $200 per visit service charge.

    1. Daniel says:

      Some kind of Consumer Protection Law in Norway covered the out of warranty repairs.

      Check the comments in Bjorn’s youtube video. I asked the same question and that’s what he said.

  9. Someone out there says:

    No wonder Tesla is bleeding money! All these issues must cost a fortune to deal with!

    1. jelloslug says:

      I guess you have never owned a car under warranty before…

      1. Someone out there says:

        I don’t have to go further than other comments to this very article to find comparisons to other cars. Also, Consumer Reports downgraded their score for the model S exactly because of all these issues, that’s a pretty good source.

    2. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      Well, certainly Tesla would be “bleeding money” if the number of problems and issues Bjørn reports in his hard-driven early production car was in any way typical of the average Model S.

      Since Tesla reports the amount it spends on warranty repairs, we know that Bjørn’s experience is not even remotely near average.

      1. Carzin says:

        Tesla is bleeding money. Have you read the stock releases? They are burning through cash like the federal government, except they don’t own the presses.

        1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

          “Bleeding” implies either waste or uncontrolled spending. Tesla is investing in the future by building out increased capacity (and the Gigafactory).

          Investing in the future isn’t “bleeding”, nor is it — as others have mischaracterized it — “losing” money.

          Nothing is being lost. It’s being invested.

          Please learn to tell the difference.

          1. Mike says:

            Tesla would still be losing money if R&D was zero. Q4 R&D spending was 190MM, net loss was 320MM.

            1. Paul says:

              Investment in for instance the superchargers (they finish one per day globally!) is no R&D.

              1. evcarnut says:

                I would think that is a station SC’s per day. But.,Is it infact a Station of superchargers per day Globally? 0r just the 0ne per day period ?

  10. Carzin says:

    Holy crap. If you added up what those costs would have run if not under warranty, I suspect he folks have almost bought another car. I have heard so much from Tesla owners on maintenance that there is no way I’d have one out of warranty. Isn’t a drive unit replacement about 10k? And he has been through 3?

    1. Sam EV says:

      “…the 85 kWh Model S, our most popular model by far, now has an 8 year, infinite mile warranty on both the battery pack and drive unit. There is also no limit on the number of owners during the warranty period. Moreover, the warranty extension will apply retroactively to all Model S vehicles ever produced”

      https://www.teslamotors.com/blog/infinite-mile-warranty

      1. Priusmaniac says:

        Brand new cars and recent cars are going to be fine with that 8 year warranty, apart from the unexpected hurdles imobilizing breakdown bring with them, but what happen in 2022 with 9 year old Model S owners? Will there be a possibility to find second hand replacement parts from crashed vehicles that you can fit on your vehicle like for gas cars? Considering the specifics of electronic stuff that is quiet unlikely. So you will have to drive and hope for the best like for an old computer. Makes you wonder what the resale value of >8 year old cars is going to be. Unless independent used parts based repair shops exist by then.

  11. Ryan says:

    Since we’re chipping in with our own stories, my smart fortwo ev which I’ve had a year and have done just over 9000 miles in, has had two issues so far. The most major was a replacement onboard computer after I found myself stranded by a public charger that the car refused to believe I had disconnected (the car won’t even let you put it into neutral if it thinks the charging cable is plugged in). The second was the charging cable provided with the car stopped working after about ten months of use. Fortunately this happened after we had installed a level 2 charger on our house and less than a week after we had bought our 2016 Chevy volt, so I was able to just borrow the one that came with that (I only use my 110V charger to charge at work, something my wife who drives the Volt cannot currently do).

    The first was a big pain because the car was at the service center for over a week because of various parts they had to order before they were able to figure out the problem. The second fortunately wasn’t, but obviously could have been if the provided cable was my only charging method. I waited until my annual service for them to diagnose the cable as faulty and they had a replacement that I left the same day with.

    Obviously things can and do go wrong with any car. I still believe electric cars to be more reliable though, and arguably only one of my issues was really with the car. A faulty onboard computer would screw up any car too.

    My last car had a number of issues over its ten years. Faulty air sensors. Bad spark plugs. Bad alternator. The clutch went bad before my mechanic recommended it be replaced.

    It happens. I wouldn’t go back to an ICE vehicle though. My electric may have limited range in the winter, but it starts first time every time and warms the cabin quickly. When my old ICE was starting from the sorts of temperatures we had over this last weekend the same could not be said for it.