1,600 Combo Chargers In Europe – Includes CHAdeMO Comparison

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CCS Combo and CHAdeMO Chargers Installed In Europe - by late November 2015

CCS Combo and CHAdeMO Chargers Installed In Europe – by late November 2015

CCS Combo inlet and plug in Europe

CCS Combo inlet and plug in Europe

The number of installed Combined Charging System (CCS or Combo) DC fast chargers in Europe hit 1,615 according to CCS Charge Map.

We compared that with the latest (also updated in late November) number of 2,755 CHAdeMO chargers from CHAdeMO Association.

Together with estimated numbers for 2014 and previous years (CHAdeMO only) we get a glimpse at how installation is progressing.

There were only about 150 Combo in mid-2014, so Combo was about 2 years behind CHAdeMO, but as of 2015 the difference is much smaller, partly due to governmental influence seemingly favoring the CCS.

As a result, new projects today are often multi-standard (which is a good thing), but CHAdeMO stil had significantly more new installations over the past two months (+403 since 22 September versus +256 since 21 September for Combo).

On the above graph you can also notice how 2014 CHAdeMO growth was limited – that was when EU policy threatened the CHAdeMO standard.

Combo installations:

1,600 CCS Chargers Installed In Europe (source: CCS Charge Map)

1,600 CCS Chargers Installed In Europe (source: CCS Charge Map)

Here is the country comparison for Combo:

1,600 CCS Chargers Installed In Europe (source: CCS Charge Map)

1,600 CCS Chargers Installed In Europe (source: CCS Charge Map)

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29 responses to "1,600 Combo Chargers In Europe – Includes CHAdeMO Comparison"

  1. Bob says:

    Currently more or less all new DC chargers are CHAdeMO & CCS in one…

    1. JakeY says:

      Unless the data is not synced (possible) it suggests that there are still a significant portion of CHADeMO-only being installed.

      +403 since 22 September for CHAdeMO versus +256 since 21 September for Combo means 147 CHAdeMO only.

      1. Jay Cole says:

        You see a lot of separation (1 standard installs) still from OEM-originated (and partner subsidized) installations.

        1. Bob says:

          Come to think about it, car dealers would probably opt for single standard chargers.

        2. perlybird says:

          At the moment Nissan is installing as much as possible until CHAdeMO-only chargers will be forbidden in Europe starting with 2017.
          My guess is that CCS will takes the lead in Europe in 2018.

          http://www.charinev.org/media/position-papers-regulation/

  2. Josh says:

    That is great progress in Europe on both fronts.

    According to Supercharge.info, Tesla has 207 Supercharger locations open (usually 8 per station, sometimes less). CCS has likely already passed Tesla in number of chargers.

    200+ mile range means that there are less stations needed for Model S, but this will eventually be true for CCS vehicles too.

    1. KenZ says:

      Good point, although I recall an article (here somewhere?) where it was noted that superchargers were situated better for between city driving, and the other standards were for in-city driving, so just because the installed base of chargers is large, they may not be in the right locations to enable long distance driving. Reasonably easy to remedy though.

      1. Josh says:

        Many of the current charging stations are going to be orphaned once long range BEVs (200+ EPA) become standard. Especially the L2 stations that charge above grid rates.

        Many of the CDM and CCS stations that were build with 80 mile range in mind will become under-utilized. Chargers at dealership lots that are only available 9 – 8, M – S will be seldom used once useful placement of fast charging becomes the standard.

        Inner city and workplace will probably always remain good use cases, but the L2 at a random library that is nowhere near a highway will be abandon in 10 years.

        But as with any chicken and egg problem, you have to start somewhere. And CCS is finally kicking into gear.

    2. Ricegf says:

      Well, surpassed the number of *sites*. I presume in Europe, as in the USA, most CCS sites have only one charger, and a dual CCS/CHAdeMO site can handle only one of the other at a time. Tesla generally has 4 – 6 chargers per site to minimize congestion and avoid delaying a road trip.

      1. Josh says:

        No, I think I got it right. CCS now has 1615 chargers. I am guessing that means 800 – 1200 locations since many are solo chargers.

        Tesla has 207 locations, which I generously said is ~1600 chargers (almost 8 per location).

        So total number of chargers, CCS has finally caught up with Tesla. That is still an embarrassment since Tesla is a 50k per year auto company (based in California) and CCS is the European standard for fast charing backed by all EU automakers (short Renault).

        I do agree that having the redundancy of many chargers per location is the smart long term plan. Even more so for highway travel. For inner city travel, many single/double chargers may prove to be a better economical model.

        1. Bone says:

          “No, I think I got it right. CCS now has 1615 chargers. I am guessing that means 800 – 1200 locations since many are solo chargers.”

          That is not correct. CCS-map.eu lists number of locations, not chargers. So, it’s 1615 locations and even more chargers.

          I don’t know about the numbers Chademo is listing. If that is the number of chargers, then this article has apples to oranges comparison.

          1. crossie says:

            With the sole exception of FastNed I’ve yet to see a location with more than one CCS charger. Usually when there are more than one rapid per site only one of them has CCS.

            1. Mutwin Kraus says:

              As you mentioned Fastned has two chargers in each of their 50 locations. Among the new stations popping up on German Autobahn reststops also have between 2 and 3 chargers. Also the first EVtec chargers are getting deployed that can charge two cars at once.

    3. Brandon says:

      Josh said:
      “200+ mile range means that there are less stations needed for Model S, but this will eventually be true for CCS vehicles too.”

      I would differ on this. I see this idea come up here in comments every so often that with longer range EV’s there won’t be as many fast chargers needed. Sounds like it makes sense. But remember that the numbers of EV’s is potentially going to increase dramatically with longer range vehicles, and the number of fast chargers being installed should continue to grow as well for various reasons. Here is something to think about. It’s not original with me.

      As battery capacities increase and costs fall, the potential for travel without recharging away from base increases. This could reduce the share of charging at public chargers, potentially dramatically. However, this is likely to be in part offset by the fact that these cars will be more attractive, raising uptake rates relative to current EV technology. Thus while usage of public charging spaces will decline per car, there would be more EVs on the road sooner maintaining or increasing charger use overall. Also, because of the longer range, cars would be used more for longer trips, in fact potentially increasing demand per vehicle under certain scenarios.

      1. Josh says:

        You are right. I was thinking in the “per car” basis. I expect growth to continue as the number of cars sold increases.

  3. Mutwin Kraus says:

    As far as I know the official CHAdeMO list includes every single CHAdeMO charger ever sold, some of which are not publicly accessible or no longer exist. I have not seen a single site list a significantly larger number than the CCS number and I have not heard of any bigger deployments done this year that are CHAdeMO-only.

    1. No. The official CHAdeMO list includes only chargers reported by contributing partners. There are several more.

    2. Yes, for whatever reasons, the CHAdeMO association numbers are under reporting.

      For instance, the last time I checked, there were none listed for Minnesota, USA, when in fact, there are 20.

      1. David Peilow says:

        There are also quite a few in the UK that do not appear on that global CHAdeMO map.

        It seems to be one large network and I have attempted to ask them why.

    3. Josh says:

      It is embarrassing that the reporting is that difficult. These are networked chargers that require access to activate.

      I really would like to see them move to some sort of Monthly Active Chargers and total power consumed so we can see both the installations and utilization. It would also encourage smart siting of chargers.

  4. Too bad there is no usage statistics. CHAdeMO will lead with 80%+.

  5. Yup says:

    Wow, Chademo had a three year head start, and the lead is already down to one year. There were as many CCS installations at the end of 2015 as there were Chademo installations at the end of 2014. Hopefully the Chademo manufacturers decide to switch to CCS soon, and end the standards war. Granted, I wish they would all adopt the Tesla standard, but that seems like a reach.

    1. Obviously, the reverse is also true. The leader should absorb all the lesser quantity CCS stations into CHAdeMO.

      Unlike the USA, CCS survives in Europe with government help (laws and funding devoted to CCS). They attempting to stop CHAdeMO through legislation.

      The same is true of CHAdeMO in Japan, however Japan has 400% more CHAdeMO stations than Europe has CCS ones.

      The end game will hopefully be 10-20 years of this dual standard, with something new / better / faster / lighter / easier to use, etc, replacing it.

      1. Josh says:

        Like the Tesla’s SuperCharger spec today 😉

      2. perlybird says:

        CCS is not only surviving, it will lead in Europe as soon as the law enforcement will start in 2017 (2017 onwards, CHAdeMO only Charger will be forbbiden).

  6. The Standards war is an interesting one! The Primary Argument of CCS – is basically – just one access point in the car, and one hole in the skin! Sure – they talk about just one plug/receptacle type, but that is not quite as true for CCS as it is for Tesla, for Example! [Plus – the Tesla Design does not even make a cut/hole in the general design skin of the vehicle!]

    Next – Nissan (LEAF), and Kia (Soul EV) Don’t seem to have a big issue with ONE Larger Space to allow for TWO Receptacles!

    So – how about this – since the CCS – is an Extension of the J1772 in North America, and of the Type 2 Menekes in Europe, Why not do a slight change on the LEAF and Soul EV – to have Both CHAdeMO AND CCS! OR – CCS & Tesla (On their Newer, Larger Battery and faster Charging Capable Vehicles)!

    Since the Tesla Receptacle can already use a CHAdeMO Adapter – per Tesla’s Experience, and they have said they won’t do a CCS Adapter, if OEM’s were thinking of Owner Charging Flexibility – CCS + Tesla would be the Ultimate!

    Also – since there is currently a CHAdeMO to CHAdeMO Emergency ‘Booster Cable’ Design that will transfer a 5% or 10% Charge from a higher SOC Battery to a Lower One, that can be used for LEAF’s Soul EV’s iMiEV’s and even the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV!

    If Tesla Could make a similar product – then anyone with a Tesla could call another Tesla Owner (Or Tesla Service Ranger) – and if needed, they could come with said cable and give them a boost if otherwise short of a Supercharger for some reason!

    1. JakeY says:

      The two sockets and larger flap (and in iMIEV case two flaps, on each side) is the problem. Right now CCS is easily integrated into a gas flap, while that is not possible with CHAdeMO with a separate AC socket.

      “and they have said they won’t do a CCS Adapter”
      citation needed.

      “CHAdeMO to CHAdeMO Emergency ‘Booster Cable’ Design”
      Are you talking about the Orca Inceptive? Given that costs $26k and weighs 180 lbs I don’t see how it is viable.

      “If Tesla Could make a similar product”
      Tesla has indicated they don’t have any plans yet to make V2G possible on their cars (for one, it voids the warranty).

  7. Chris says:

    Here in Australia, we have the Type One Combo CCS plugs on the RAC Electric Highway (Circontrol Trios). They have been nothing but trouble! There is a microswitch in the latch which lets the charger know the plug is in. This latch is always breaking, and because the latch isn’t there to put pressure on the microswitch, the charge cannot commence! Very frustrating.

    A Combo Type 2 would be better, but then we already have a Fast AC option on these chargers, which dual charger Teslas can enjoy in addition to their ChaDeMo adaptors.

    Have to say, ChaDeMo has been far and away the more reliable charge system.

  8. Speculawyer says:

    Why don’t we ever get stories on the DC fast charge infrastructure in the USA?

    Is it because the data is not available or because it is too damn embarrassing?