$13,000 DIY Electric Car Drives 340 Miles On 2/3rds Of Its Battery – Video

2 months ago by Steven Loveday 104

ITAP Inc. has designed a do-it-yourself electric car to challenge any current long-range production EVs.

In order to show the potential of ITAP’s hybrid recycling method, they pit a Tesla Model S P90D, Chevrolet Bolt, Nissan LEAF, and “The Phoenix” against each other on a highway range test. All cars are fully charged, and all will travel the same route, under the same conditions, with professional drivers.

“The Phoenix” is a salvaged BMW that ITAP dragged out of a junkyard. It is made up of 88 percent recycled materials (by weight). The cars weighs a total of 3,960 pounds. The battery and the controller are completely recycled. It cost ITAP $12,900 in total to prepare the car for its voyage.

Electric Car

The Phoenix electric car by ITAP

The cars travel a 362 mile round trip route in California from Chatsworth to San Luis Obispo.

  • The Nissan LEAF dies first at 81 miles
  • The Tesla Model S P90D is next out of the race at 238.2 miles (the car shows 2 miles remaining)
  • The Chevrolet Bolt impresses with 271.5 before dying
  • The Phoenix blows a fuse at 340.3 miles, with 32 percent power still remaining

    Electric Car

    ITAP recycles everything. They company doesn’t believe in throwing anything away. The Phoenix is proof that old parts can be refreshed and repurposed successfully, to save money and our environment. How about all those VW’s sitting at the Rivian plant?

If the Phoenix was able to complete its journey, it would have been able to travel well over 400 miles.

ITAP Inc. (IT Asset Partners) specializes in Electronic Asset Management, Reverse Logistics, and Recycling. Basically, ITAP works to make the best use of company’s assets by “re-integrating new life cycles into old electronics.” This process leads to less waste, sustainability, and a cleaner environment.

Eric Lundgren adds some details on the car via the comment community:

Our battery pack is 125KWh currently and still under GVWR of 4,200/LBS for this 1997 BMW Frame.

The entire car was built in a total of (35) days. The car was built in a back-yard and my two (2) engineers were paid in Keystone Light. The video above was her maiden voyage; never before had she been driven..

I look forward to posting another video in the upcoming months of the “ITAP Recycled Electric Car” going farther than 425+ Miles! I hope this video can help educate the public on Hybrid Recycling, Re-Use and that this new World Record will show the world what is possible with EV’s and battery technology.

As Per Our Price:

It was less than $13K total and has two (2) onboard chargers to speed up the 3 Phase charge time. Since the batteries were re-purposed from all different types of electronics; it kept our overall price low. This allowed us to successfully build the longest range EV (at highway speeds) in the world at the lowest price point of all ev’s. All thanks to HYBRID RECYCLING!!

Video Description via Eric Lundgren on YouTube:

It is my great pleasure to introduce to you the ITAP Recycle Car known as “The Phoenix”… To demonstrate Hybrid Recycling Solutions; we have just beat the World Record for Electric Vehicle Range @ Highway Speeds! (70+MPH) (340+ Miles on a Single Charge!)

This Range-Race at highway speeds is between Tesla, General Motors, Nissan, and ITAP. I hope this video helps to demonstrate the power of Hybrid Recycling.

Thank You For Watching!

www.GoITAP.com

Contact Us:
Info@GoITAP.com

This video is an educational tool to demonstrate Hybrid Recycling.

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105 responses to "$13,000 DIY Electric Car Drives 340 Miles On 2/3rds Of Its Battery – Video"

  1. SparkEV says:

    It seems to be that this is a case of reuse, not recycle. The old green (and cheapskates like me) mantra is “reduce, reuse, recycle”.

    If this can be done on wider scale, it could have far reaching benefit. But I doubt it’d be $13K when you factor in labor, and the announcement made on Apr. 1.

    1. SparkEV says:

      They did not drive at 70 MPH. Bolt display shows 271.5 miles driven and used 54.3 kWh. That works out to 5 mi/kWh, highly unlikely at 70 MPH when others have reported 4 mi/kWh at 65 to 70 MPH. More likely, they drove at 55 MPH.

      1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

        Not surprising.

        German battery maker DBM did the same several years ago, stuffing a compact car full of batteries and driving it 605 km to advertise their supposedly breakthrough “Kolibri” battery. (It wasn’t, of course.) But a lot of that distance wasn’t driven at highway speed, so that was an inflated range figure (details at link below).

        I regard things like this as being stunts, not achievements.

        “It cost ITAP $12,900 in total to prepare the car for its voyage.”

        Yeah, well very few people are willing to spend nearly $13k just to prepare their car for one road trip!

        It’s just a stunt.

        http://www.newfuelist.com/link/~gpm

        1. 1.) They drove SLOWER than Our Car.. 55MPH V.S. 65-73MPH!

          2.) They drove at night (Cooler) temp.

          3.) They drive a car built on non-rechargeable tech. (Not Lithium Ion Cells) but rather cells w/o ability for multiple charge cycles.

          4.) They drove a car made from new parts (Not Recycled Scrap & eWaste).

          5.) They did not document their entire run; thus I have no way to confirm this story with anything other than text.. Where is the video footage?

          6.) MOST IMPORTANT; Even if I am wrong about all of the above.. Our car is doing 400+ Miles now and this new car with new parts from Audi can only do 372 Miles..

      2. ModernMarvelFan says:

        “The Tesla Model S P90D is next out of the race at 238.2 miles (the car shows 2 miles remaining)”

        Are you claiming that Bolt was driven at a different speed than Tesla?

        If that is the case, then that test is invalid to start with. If it was driven at the same hwy speed, then the entire claim that Tesla’s low Cd helps range certainly didn’t show up at whatever speed they were driving at hwy.

        I would also be surprised that Tesla P90D only got 240 miles of range at 55mph according to your estimate!

        1. SparkEV says:

          I’m claiming there’s no way Bolt was driven at 70 MPH and get 5 mi/kWh. That means Bolt at 70 MPH would have range of 300 miles, which isn’t possible.

          Driving at different speed is one possibility. Another is they didn’t start all cars at full charge. As other mention below, P90D getting less range than Bolt, especially at 70 MPH, is not likely.

          1. Well Spark,

            The Bolt was new and the P90D was old and driven very hard; maybe that is why?

            Next time; we will run them against a new P100D but again; it won’t beat THE PHOENIX which will be running in the 400+/Mi territory on highway speeds @ 70MPH and still be under a budget of $13K 🙂

            1. jerry says:

              Can you give details on the battery? Or were a lot more details ca be found?
              Congrats on your run. Impressive.

        2. paul smith says:

          At the beginning of the video, he clearly emphasizes that the date is APRIL 1, 2017.

          1. Paul Smith:

            He is Me.. 🙂

            I will emphasize the date in the beginning of every video. I deem it to be important for documenting the progress. Just dumb luck that our first test happened to be on April 1st. I promise you the test and all findings are legit. More to come soon! 🙂

      3. Joshua Jordan says:

        The route is all downhill.

        1. How can the route be “All Downhill” when they go in both directions..?

          P.S. The route was an elevation difference of 900 ft. It was the flattest spot near our area that’s why we chose to run it here.. for the nay-sayers like you 🙂

      4. On the way there; we averaged 65MPH. On the way back; Other cars averaged 68MPH and The Phoenix averaged 73 MPH with a top speed of 93MPH on this trip on flat ground.

    2. Brian says:

      Yeah, reuse is NOT the same as recycle. Reuse is much better than recycle. So many people have no clue that there is even a difference.

      1. Brian,

        Re-Use is the purest format of Recycling resulting in a Carbon Footprint of Zero. That being said; Hybrid Recycling = Extracting and Re-using the Parts & Components inside broken electronics.. This IS a format of Recycling and is very necessary in today’s “Buy, Break, Trash” consumer culture.. eWaste is the fastest growing waste stream in the world and it is TOXIC if not handled properly.. We have saved over 40,000,000 LBS of eWaste from landfills this year – which would have been leaching toxic chemicals into your water supply if not for Hybrid Recycling. Thank you for your post 🙂

    3. SJC says:

      Keystone Light
      At least pay with a better beer.

      1. SparkEV says:

        At least pay first couple of beers with better ones. Once the buzz kicks in, that’s when you bring out the Keystone. 🙂

      2. =j says:

        Perhaps it was more a negative inducement. “Finish on time, or we pay you in Keystone Light”

        1. Apparently Keystone Light is their favorite beer! 🙂

      3. SJC: They wanted Keystone Light.. What can I say.. Haha

        There is a funny picture of them working on the car outside at night with cases of Keystone Light (Payment) all around them..

        I love our Tech Crew @ ITAP; It is pretty amazing that we were able to build this car in (35) days from Start to Finish.. Maybe it was the Keystone Light? 🙂

    4. Hello SparkEV,

      I AM Eric Lundgren, ITAP is my company and The Phoenix is our car.

      This was a great article on our car; shout out to Steven Loveday for sharing our story..

      We plan on beating our record again within the next (40) days.. We will be driving THE PHOENIX recycled car from LA to Sacramento and partially back.. We are shooting for a range of 425 Miles on our second (2nd) ever drive of this car and hope to get Adam Savage from Mythbusters & Tested to come drive the car and I’ll sit shotgun! : )

      To answer some of the questions that everyone asks:

      1.) My P90D Tesla did perform lower than expected.. The car is (14) months old and I do run her hard.. I will be renting a new P100D for the next test.. Stay tuned!

      2.) The new Bolt had a tight battery pack so it performed better however; it also had a safety feature where it only charged to 90%. Technically – you could add another 10% to the Bolt’s total range but it wouldn’t have changed the ranking/race outcome.

      3.) We didn’t mean to run the car on April 1st, Just dumb luck I guess.. This isn’t an April Fools Joke – It is 100% Real, as will be the next run coming up soon that will beat this one..

      4.) We tried to remove all variables from this test however there will always be “Nay Sayers” whom do not believe our results given our car was made from Consumer Waste.. But the truth is; All the cars were driven on same roads, at the same speeds. Nay-Sayers will eventually come around as we test this car and provide followup video’s with seven (7) camera’s on each run documenting every aspect of our journey.

      5.) This IS the longest range @ highway speeds (70MPH) and built from 88% Consumer Garbage (eWaste & junk-yard car) costing a total of less than $13,000.00 to make.

      6.) We left each vehicle with 1-2 miles left on it to get it off the road and drive it up onto the tow truck safely so you can add 1-2 miles to each car to be exact.

      7.) The car does have an on-board charger and a cooling system. We just put the seats back in it as well so that I can drive with Adam Savage from Myth Busters in the 2nd run.

      8.) We are not looking to start a car company; this was simply to demonstrate the value in Hybrid Recycling a.k.a “Reuse of Working Parts & Components within Broken Electronics”.

      9.) ALL CARS WERE DRIVEN AT THE SAME SPEED. ALL CARS WERE DRIVEN ON THE SAME ROAD. ALL CARS WERE DRIVE AT THE SAME TIME OF DAY. The Tesla is my daily driver and driven hard so it has lost 12% of it’s battery pack life within the last (14) months according to my Tesla Dealership. . The Bolt was a brand-new car with (zero) miles on it loaned from a dealer thus why it performed so well.. The Nissan Leaf was a rented car and was also 18 months old. In future tests we will use a new Tesla Model S 100D worth 118,000.00 against our $13K car to see how she does..

      10.) We need to find some contacts at the news to come with us on the next trip as a non-bias 3rd party. I have received a lot of flack and want to prove to all that this car is real and records are accurate. If anyone has contacts in the news and/or media to confirm our results – Please eMail me at: Eric@GoITAP.com

      Please also feel free to eMail me above if you have any good ideas, contacts, or wish to assist per our next run from Chatsworth, CA to Sacramento, CA! to set a new world record of 425+ Miles @ 70MPH!

      Thank you very much and stay tuned for our new video of Voyage #2 coming soon to YouTube! Link Below:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InWSsghejdE

      1. Thank you so much, Eric. Keep us posted.

      2. Terry Vincent says:

        Awesome work Eric! Love this kind of stuff! Good ole American ingenuity ?.

      3. Bill Howland says:

        Very Impressive Mr. Lundgren – that you can do this for a small amount of money – even though you end up with only a 2 seat BMW.

        The most surprising thing to me is the 60 kwh BOLT ev went around 30 miles further than the 90 kwh Tesla. That is some difference, given the identical conditions.

    5. Spark,

      1.) Just dumb luck that we happened to run the car on April 1st. I can promise you that THIS IS REAL! 🙂

      2.) We are not trying to mass-produce the car but rather show what is possible while demonstrating the power of Hybrid Recycling a.k.a Reusing working Parts & Components from broken electronics (Like how we built this car)!

      3.) Re-Use is the purest form of Recycling. It creates ZERO carbon footprint. Re-Using parts/components within broken/obsolete electronics is called “Hybrid Recycling”.. This is a much-needed and often missing part of the Recycling Ecosystem.

      Thank you for your comment and stay tuned; more to come! 🙂

  2. DJ says:

    Another way to look at it is if I were to have these for my daily commute the Leaf, Bolt, Model S would still be going strong after 2 weeks meanwhile the Phoenix would be in the shop getting repaired.

    Not exactly something I would want…

  3. Pete says:

    No details about the battery, are they kidding ?
    And the Bolt only used 54 kWh , not empty. Also the LEAF and the Model S could have done some miles more.
    But impressive show, congrats.

    1. Jay Cole says:

      Hey Pete,

      Eric Lundgren actually does wade in a little more on the car separately and says its 125 kWh.

      Will add the quotage to the storage…because its a handy bit of extra info, (=

      1. Espen Hugaas Andersen says:

        125 kWh would work out to at least something like 750 kg or 1650 lb, provided that these aren’t new state of the art cells. That leaves a little over 2000 lb for everything else.

        I wouldn’t want to see this car crash tested…

    2. Hello Pete,

      Thank you for your comment and support! 🙂

      We simply want to demonstrate the value in Hybrid Recycling and push the limit of today’s EV’s. More to come brother; stay tuned! 🙂

      As per the Tesla & Leaf, I agree – They both should have gone farther.. Nothing more honest than filling up all cars and testing in same conditions though.. On the next test; I will get different cars and drives to remove all variables.. I am hoping to get Adam Savage to drive my car so that I can ride shotgun all the way from LA to Sacramento! 🙂 Thanks again for your support Pete! 🙂

    3. Pete,

      – The Battery in our car is 125KWH
      – The motor is AC-51
      – The controller is Curtis
      – The Battery Types are a mix of Prismatic & – LG Chem.
      – Low Rolling Resistant Tires on 20″ aluminum rims.

      Five (5)Speed BMW Transmission.

      Any other questions per spec’s sir?

      1. Durkle says:

        First of all I want to say this is super cool. I’ve looked at putting together an EV conversion for my DD (I commute 105 miles a day), but have had a hard time sourcing parts and have figured that for a 40-50 kWh pack plus motor and controller it’d cost me close to 20 grand to put together. How in the world have you put together an enormous pack plus motor and controller for that price? Where did you get the parts? Thanks! If I still lived in the Sacramento area, I’d definitely be offering to help with part 2, but am on the other end of the country now…

        If you want more EVs on your Sacramento end of the trip, check out the SacEV Association, there are a lot of interested members there who would be happy to join you: http://www.saceva.org/contact

  4. Ken says:

    I built my own electric car. And spent way more than that. Id love to hear about how many kwh the pack is and how much they paid for it. Even used, $13k isn’t even enough to buy the batteries to go that far (used) Id love to hear more. Im thinking its a joke.

    1. Shaun says:

      It’s possible they are quoting the price their recycling business pays for the cells.

      1. Shaun,

        You are correct buddy.. I was actually quoting the price that we SELL the cells for to be re-used in new applications/products in China such as Solar Power Arrays, eWheelchairs and many other applications. Thank you for your comment! 🙂

  5. ClarksonCote says:

    Interesting that the Bolt traveled much further on 60kWh than the P90D on 90kWh. And the Bolt went further than it’s 238 mile rating too.

    1. Brian says:

      Yeah, that’s what impressed me the most, too. Those numbers almost seem too good to be true. Then again, others point out that it was released on April 1st so…

      1. Jay Cole says:

        Don’t let the first comment throw you off. Yes the test was Apr 1st (which admittedly isn’t the best date to announce a “record” anything), but the video was put out April 12th…and its a real thing, lol

        1. Brian says:

          And the Bolt really outran the Tesla 90D by that much? Is it possible they weren’t driven the same way? E.g. the Bolt was drafting trucks at 60MPH but the Tesla was roaring past them at 90? The numbers just don’t add up.

          1. Jay Cole says:

            Hey Brian,

            Just to note, I wasn’t commenting on the methodology of the test, or the results as provided…just speaking to the assumption that the whole thing might be an elaborate Apr 1st “event” of some kind it.

            On that count, it isn’t…it is a real DIY EV, via a real company/establishment. Was just getting ahead of that one notion.

            1. Espen Hugaas Andersen says:

              It may well be a real EV. But if you can’t trust the methodology, you can’t trust the stated achieved range.

              People have driven a stock Model S 452 miles. But that was at an average of 25 mph… (Also that was a P85D – at the same speed, a 100D should achieve more than 550 miles.)

      2. April 1st was just dumb luck.. The car is REAL and will run a 400+ Mile trip very soon! Stay Tuned to your YouTube channel! : )

    2. Espen Hugaas Andersen says:

      Yeah. No way the Bolt beats a P90D without *major* manipulation of the results. I have a spreadsheet for calculating range of different EVs at different speeds, and in favourable conditions at 62 mph, a Bolt has a theoretical range of around 244 miles, while a P90D has a range of around 364 miles. When you go up to 78 mph, the Bolt drops down to 176 miles and the Model S drops down to 278 miles.

      These are theoretical numbers, with no wind, ideally inflated low rolling resistance tires, 20C temperature, no A/C, no change in elevation, no starts or stops, no windows rolled down, dry roads and no precipitation. All these factors will affect range to some extent or other, usually negatively.

      1. SparkEV says:

        What does your spreadsheet say if driven at 55 MPH? Based on Bolt’s power and distance display, they drove much slower than 65 MPH (more like 55 MPH or even less), and Tesla being heavier doesn’t do as well in lower speeds.

        1. Espen Hugaas Andersen says:

          At 47 mph, the Tesla goes 468 miles and the Bolt goes 342 miles. (Again, these are perfectly idealized conditions.)

          I’ve posted various graphs here, though not for the P90D. Still, you get a good impression of how much speed matters. https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/model-3-high-speed-range.86031/

          1. SparkEV says:

            Bolt will do bit over 300 miles at about 55 MPH based on 5 mi/kWh (bit less than SparkEV), and your Tesla number seems very optimistic. Tesla is rated less efficient in city than in highway, and 55 MPH is barely highway.

            In the link you have, it shows Tesla S100D to be over 300 miles range all the way to 78 MPH, and over 500 mile range at 47 MPH (bit under 500 miles at 55 MPH). That seems way too optimistic when EPA rates it 20% less efficient than Bolt.

            Just going by EPA efficiency figure of 20% more for Bolt, but 50% less battery, I would think S90 would do about 375 miles calculated as follows.

            Bolt:
            300 miles range at 55 MPH, 120 MPGe, 60 kWh

            Tesla S90:
            100 MPGe, 90 kWh

            S90 range:
            300 * 100/120 * 90/60 = 375 miles

            1. Samuel H says:

              Using the EPA’s definition of highway, the Tesla Model S 100D gets 337 miles. By contrast, the Chevy Bolt gets 217 miles utilizing the same testing cycle and speed. (3.37 vs 3.62 miles/kWh at roughly 50 mph) https://electrek.co/2017/04/13/tesla-model-s-100d-longest-range-ev-epa/

              And at a steady 75 mph which is typical interstate speed, the Chevy Bolt gets just 190 miles of range. Higher speeds do not affect Tesla’s range nearly as much due to their lower Cd. Tesla’s website quotes the range up to 70 mph which for a 100D is 319 miles and 75D a solid 250 miles of range.
              http://insideevs.com/instrumented-test-of-chevrolet-bolt-190-miles-of-range-at-steady-75-mph/

              A quick calculation shows that at 70-75 mph, a Tesla Model S 75D gets 3.3 miles/kWh vs the Chevy Bolt’s lower 3.1 miles/kWh. Aerodynamics matter, esp. at higher speeds which is typical of long distances driving.

              1. SparkEV says:

                Bolt was not driven at 75 MPH. Video shows it got 5 mi/kWh, a figure typical of about 55 MPH.

          2. Lawrence says:

            Very nice. It’s actually drag that is what is affects performance. Drag is impacted by air resistance and weight. If they used the same route, different times of day where the Tesla had to start and stop with 4 camera crew, while the Bolt maintained 50mph with one person, it would be a huge difference despite regenerative braking.

            I don’t like these type of gimmicks unless they tell us accurately all the conditions including the state of the cars.

      2. Espen,

        The test results are real brother.. My Tesla was supposed to get 264 but did not because the battery was suffering from 12% Degradation per the first (14) months.. According to my TESLA Rep. the battery apparently degrades by 10% in the first year and 2% every year after that.. As per the BOLT battery – it was Brand New with ZERO miles on it.. Maybe that is why the Bolt did so well and the Tesla did not? Either way; the next test will run with different model Tesla & Bolt; we will film with seven (7) camera’s to capture all for our viewers. Hopefully with 3rd party independent news agency present.. Let’s see what happens.. 🙂

    3. Bill Howland says:

      He mentions his 1 1/6 year old Tesla has had a somewhat hard life, but 12 % degradation per the Tesla Representative he talked to is consistent with 10% loss the first year and then 2%/annum afterwards, which goes against the ‘battery reviews’ here ‘proving’ that a Tesla loses less than 3% after the first year.

      The synchronous motor used in the BOLT doesn’t have the rotor losses (or rotor heating) the old-fashioned one in the “S” does, but agreed – 30 miles more distance on supposedly 2/3rds the battery is very impressive.

      The Other thing might be the ’60 kwh’ battery in the BOLT ev is quite obviously a conservative rating, compared to the way other brands rate things.

  6. Jim stack says:

    Does it have air conD and a heater?
    How,will rhe battery life be?
    Does it have Regen braking?

    Sounds like they did a good job if we can see the detsils.

    1. Hey Jim!

      The Phoenix can have AC if we put two little TEC Units inside and wire to the pack. : )

      The Phoenix battery life will be great – We just installed a Cooing System on the batteries however durring this test we ran them open-air.

      Degredation is less than 2% on these used batteries because we took the fully working cells from bad-packs.

      Many people do not understand this concept.. When a battery “Dies” it is not really “Dead”.. Usually there are good cells in the pack that can be extracted, tested and re-integrated into new applications like our car. We built the tools and infrastructure to be able to do this at ITAP. From a small 18-650 battery up to a giant Prismatic Cell and/or LG Chemcell Packs. 🙂

      Now many people will bring up battery degradation at this point and they are right.. If a battery has fully used up it’s lifecycles then it must be sent to a scrap smelter.. BUT – In 40% of our cases; we find that the battery is 97%+ GOOD! It was either an obsolete model or an EV vehicle got hit or there was an error code from the board going bad or.. or.. or.. In so many cases; we as humans are so quick to throw away perfectly working parts and components that can be re-integrated into new applications and re-used! My multi-million dollar company “ITAP” specializes in the extraction and re-integration of value from eWaste.

      Thank you for your comment and positive feedback! Stay tuned Jim Stack; we are building even more fun record breaking projects to demonstrate ITAP’s Hybrid Recycling Solutions! 🙂

  7. 2EVsCO says:

    Seems convincing, great pollution prevention project.

    Obviously this is not a production car with production car creature comforts, but a great exercise in what I would even consider UP-cycling.

    I work in environmental compliance for an electric utility so this video makes me giggidty! Thanks for sharing IEVs!

    1. 2EVsCEO:

      Then you probably see first-hand all of the waste within a humming corporation.. As a member of the human race; I simply want to make sure that we build systems to not “Waste our eWaste”. For much of it that is broken; there are salvageable parts and for much of it which is surplus; the parts can be re-integrated into new applications to serve new lifecycles in needed products around the world..

      ITAP is not trying to build production vehicles; this is not our goal. We are simply demonstrating that “Electronic Trash” can serve new lifecycles. This battery example is one of ITAP’s Hybrid Recycling Solutions. We work with LCD’s, LCM’s, IC Chipsets, capacitors and Nand Flash as well.. Our goal is to divert as much eWaste from landfills and inhumane disposal methods as possible.. We need to build a better solution for Hazardous eWaste.. Landfills leaching into our water table and burning in Africa for metal value is not the answer. Paying recyclers to Crush and Smelt all eWaste is NOT the answer.. There is Value and Benefit for mankind in eWaste! This is not just an “Idea”.. My company recycles 40,000,000 LBS per year and generates millions from this trash annually.

      This record breaking electric car (and many more to come) that we build will demonstrate Hybrid Recycling while showing the world what is possible.. The first step to a better future is optimism! The next is hard work. 🙂

      Thank you for your positive feedback! Stay tuned.. More to come : )

  8. 2EVsCO says:

    Pretty convincing video, comments page of YT video has more specs and details, great pollution prevention project. Their being a recycling company clearly gives them preferential access to a plethora of battery and controller materials and testing equipment.

    Obviously this is not a production car with production car creature comforts, but a great exercise in what I would even consider UP-cycling.

    I work in environmental compliance for an electric utility so this video makes me giggidty! Thanks for sharing IEVs!

  9. James says:

    Seriously?

    April 1st?

    So many flaws. First, you gather all these cars, number decals on windows, go through all the motions of making this video – and you do this on the FIRST drive of the BMW?!!!

    Yeah — Right….

    Why would a P90 Tesla only go 230 miles? Has it been thrashed? How could it go 230 miles at 70mph, which might explain it had the Bolt EV not gone 271 miles?…

    Too much fish about this video. Any engineer would test run the car before they drove it “for the first time” to make this elaborate video.

    1. James,

      The fact that we ran the car on the 1st of April was just dumb luck.. I assure you that this test is legit.

      The Tesla is 1.4 Years old and has been run hard. The Bolt was brand new with (Zer0) miles on it thus why it performed so well.

      My engineers were furious with me for wanting to run the vehicle untested but we had ran out of time per day of shoot deadline and literally flat-bed her up to my office before running her. (Hence why I was in the red fire-suit). 🙂

      You sound skeptical so stay tuned; we will run The Phoenix again shortly against a P100D and drive all the way from LA to the State Capital on a single charge.. Give me (30) Days to arrange, make the video & post it for you.. This isn’t a scam; this is a demonstration of what “Hybrid Recycling” can do and YES – It is real!

      Feel free to come out and see it for yourself: The car is at our headquarters @ 8966 Mason Ave. Chatsworth CA. 91311 😉

      1. Bill Howland says:

        Mr. Lundgren:

        The 14% battery degredation of your new expensive Tesla is quite frankly, horrible, I think you’d agree.

        The ‘battery test’ articles here seemed to have ‘proved’ the Tesla would only lose 3% – and now your ‘real world vehicle’ loses 14.

        Is it that people are afraid in general to bring up a vehicle that doesn’t perform according to the generally accepted Polemic?

        I noticed there was more than a little reticence of some “S” owners to mention there was a problem with their ‘charging cords’ back when Tesla was having a common problem with them. I wonder if this is the same kind of thing, that people who have batteries which fared poorly do not submit their results for a study tabulation.

  10. David Murray says:

    Yeah.. I build an EV myself years ago. It cost me as much in parts as a brand-new EV (or at least a used one) would cost to buy today.. plus hundreds of hours of labor. And then I ended up with a car that didn’t work nearly as well or reliably as a factory produced EV does today. So, no thanks.

    1. Michael says:

      Classic case of starting too early. The gear is there now my friend, and you won’t have to drive a Leaf.

    2. David,

      I am not trying to sell you a car brother! haha Go buy a Tesla or Bolt!

      We are simply demonstrating the power of “Hybrid Recycling” and setting a world record for distance at highway speeds.. 🙂

      I want to demonstrate what is possible per Hybrid Recycling Solutions & the Power of EV’s. 🙂

  11. Ocean Railroader says:

    If this car really has this kind of range and battery if it’s not a story.

    Then their is no reason why Chevy or especially Nissan can’t build a car with a 300 mile plus range.

    1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      Of course they can build a prototype EV with greater range, by sacrificing luggage space and maybe some passenger space too.

      A very different question is whether or not they can mass produce it and sell it at a price people are willing to pay.

  12. randomhuman says:

    Mhmm kinda interesting that the Bolt “stops” with only 54kWh used as we all clearly know that the Bolt has 60kWh usable.

    I wish that guy would provide real stats like average speed, miles per kWh, total consumption of kWh and so on for every car. Otherwise it is kinda suspicious for me…

    1. bjrosen says:

      Do you know that the Bolt has 60KW usable? Chevy rates the Volt’s battery at 18.4KW but it only uses 14.4KW, the other 4KW are reserved for guard bands to keep the battery from being fully charged or completely drained, they do this to protect the battery from degrading. I assumed that they would do the same thing with the Bolt which would explain why the Bolt used only 54KW instead of 60.

      1. randomhuman says:

        Yes I know it because I saw a video where a Bolt driver used almost 59kWh. The Bolt has really 60kWh usable energy.

        1. average speed 65MPH on the way out and 71-73MPH on the way back.

          The Phoenix was traveling at 65MPH out and 73 on the way back.
          The Tesla was 65MPH out and 71MPH on the way back.
          The Bolt was 65MPH out and 69MPH on the way back.

          Since all cars went both directions and traveled on same roads; there should be little discrepancy per the variables.

          It is my belief that the Bolt tested high due to being brand new and my Tesla didn’t do so hot due to loose battery pack from hard use..

          P.S. I love TESLA; there cars are very fun to drive and I own the one in the video. For the next month I will bring a P100D or 100D up for the challenge. Stay Tuned! 🙂

      2. Bill Howland says:

        Apparently the alleged ’60 kwh’ battery in the BOLT ev is ‘larger’ than other brands’ ’60 kwh’ batteries.

        I’ve used 58 kwh in my BOLT with miles to spare. I’m not saying a FULL 60 kwh is useable, but it is damn close to that. And therefore, it is somewhat larger than other brands’ 60 kwh batteries.

        The test here was impressive, even given that the BOLT ev battery was new.

    2. Randomhuman; we provided all that information in this thread and on the youtube channel. Thank you.

  13. James says:

    I’d love to get a Range Rover Defender 90 and put a system like this inside. I’ll believe it’s true when I can press “Buy now”.

    1. James,

      You can.. Go ahead and eMail me and I’ll put you in touch with my guys. You can convert almost any ICE engine car into electric and our guys can help you. ITAP, Inc. will supply the batteries at the lowest price point and you’ll be off and on your way in a one of a kind – dream car with a range equal or greater to Tesla. 🙂

  14. Nix says:

    I’m all for home retrofits.

    But they left themselves only 240 lbs for driver, passenger, and cargo. I think they might have been better off to stop at around 250 miles of range, and kept the car more usable.

    1. Nix,

      You obviously don’t understand the purpose of this challenge.. What is the farthest “Range” possible at highway speeds in a car made from salvaged Trash..

      That was the purpose here.. And as of next month; we should be running 425 Miles @ 70MPH. In comparison; the leader in EV space for range = Tesla 100D will be running around what? 266 @ Highway Speeds?
      (I’m not talking about the estimated EPA range but ACTUAL RANGE @ 70MPH HERE..)

      If you disagree – Please show me a Tesla @ 70MPH doing over 300 Miles and I’ll call you god. 🙂

  15. Mgtfguy says:

    So.. a Leaf with a battery degraded to 11 bars, a Tesla that they didn’t charge to full, and we didn’t even get to the driving part yet.

  16. ModernMarvelFan says:

    “The Tesla Model S P90D is next out of the race at 238.2 miles (the car shows 2 miles remaining)
    The Chevrolet Bolt impresses with 271.5 before dying”

    I think those two numbers are probably flipped…

    1. ModernMarvelFan: I would think so too – but they were not.. Just wait for the next race.. I am going to use a different Tesla; Maybe the pack in mine is having some issues..?

  17. Jason says:

    The only valid way to compare is if all the cars have 124kWh batteries. If you extrapolate the Bolt, then it should go at least 500+mi if it had same size battery.
    Tesla is not real, after years of it being available, and thousands of reviews, P90D would be at least close to 300mi, not 230+. I think this is an anti Tesla shot.
    Leaf must be old 24kWh battery if it only got 84mi.
    It appears there are batteries on the back seat, I suspect they are in the bonnet and boot as well, so not much point if you can’t carry any luggage or passengers.
    Looking at all their other parts of the video it seems like they are using Tesla batteries? Maybe i3 (I haven’t seen that pack disassembled before)?
    A budget price retrofit EV would be great if it could be about $5k and go at least 120mi,I think. So long as it doesn’t blow a fuse every 200mi ?

    1. mgtfguy says:

      The leaf’s battery was degraded. It only had 11 of 12 bars. That indicates between 8 and 15% range loss due to degradation.

      1. William says:

        Leaf first bar loss, is approximately a little Over 15% battery degradation. Each bar loss after the first one (#12 bar), is only half of the 15% of the first bar ( a little over 7% additional degradation for each successive bar).

        1. William; You know a lot more about the Leaf than I do.. What is the best model? I want to run the best models of each vehicle brand against The Phoenix. Anything better in range than the Tesla 100D currently?

      2. mgtfguy: Very possible.. The leaf was a rental car from Turo.com

        Any suggestion as to what car we should run against the Phoenix next?? We will bring out the news for the next run to film; What cars would you like to see? 🙂

    2. Jason,

      Your a smart guy and seem to know a lot about EV’s!

      1.) The battery pack blew a fuse because it had never been tested. This will not happen on the next run but hey.. We still managed to beat ALL production vehicles with a eWaste Recycled Trash Car! 🙂

      2.) There is a passenger seat; We are looking at getting Adam Savage to come out and drive it next while I sit shot-gun and bringing out the news for fun. Thinking about driving her from LA all the way to Sacramento and around the state capital laying on the horn until the government starts paying attention to EV’s & Hybrid Recycling.

      3.) The batteries we used were LG Chemcell & 18-650 Cells from Laptops.

      4.) The vehicle has room to convert into production vehicle for passangers yet this is not our goal. Our goal is to demonstrate Hybrid Recycling & EV potential. We will not be mass-producing these cars but rather recycling all the battery packs that companies/consumers throw away and converting them into Solar Power Arrays & Power Grid Storage & Mobile Power Stations for Concerts and/or Construction.

      As per your comment on “This may be a shot at Tesla” It is def. NOT! I LOVE TESLA; That is my P90D in the video after all.. I simply think that it performed poorly due to how hard I drive it every day.. After this video; I went to the local Tesla Dealership and my pack showed 12% degradation. Maybe that is why..? Either way – for the next run we will use a brand new P100D or 100D for all those nay-sayers and trolls out there..

      Thank you Jason for your feedbacK! 🙂

      I love INSIDE EV’s! You guys rock!

  18. Samuel H says:

    As some have mentioned, the speeds at which each car was driven were different. All things being equal, the Tesla Model P90D driven the same speed as they did the Chevy Bolt should have exceeded 350 miles easy. Also, I am surprised that no mention is made of the extreme performance potential of the P90D (not designed for max range but rather POWER!). A Model S 100D can exceed 500 miles if driven at city speeds.

    This DIY electric car is extremely impressive, but it’s a case of a massive used battery in a stripped car. Of course it’s going to have a big range! Physics people… This article is akin people shoehorning a big engine they built themself into an old car on a modest budget and spanking brand new, expensive performance cars at the dragstrip and claiming that the old is “better.” New’s flash: It’s not.

    A brand new 120 kWh battery pack would cost a whole lot and the packaging would be… interesting. The weight would also be tremendous but not too much of an issue unless it’s a sports car that is supposed to handle like a dream.

    1. Samuel,

      1.) ALL VEHICLES WERE DRIVEN AT THE SAME SPEED IN SAME CONDITIONS.

      2.) THE TESLA AND LEAF WERE BOTH USED VEHICLES WHILE THE BOLT WAS NEW & THE PHOENIX WAS SALVAGED RECYCLED PARTS.

      3.) I CHALLENGE TESLA TO BRING OUT THERE BEST CAR.. P100D or 100D. THEY WILL LOSE.

      The 500/Mi number that you are talking about is at 24/MPH. NOT 70MPH or Highway Speeds!
      Let’s compare Apples to Apples..

      I will bet anyone on here with a Tesla or any other mass-produced car ($100,000.00) that our Recycled Trash Car (The Phoenix) will win in a Range competition under same conditions at same speed. Any Takers? If yes – eMail me @ Eric@GoITAP.com and put your money where your mouth is.. 🙂

  19. kubel says:

    I have problems with this test. The LEAF had a battery that was degraded 1 bar and still had 1 bar left of range when they declared it dead. There are several miles in that last bar and even more when you dip into VLBW.

    1. Dave R says:

      Yeah, this LEAF definitely had at least a few more miles left in it. If you have a tow-truck, why not drive it until you get down to turtle?

  20. Bul_gar says:

    Small bmw shell without air conditioner with weak electric motor, cells without package, cooling and charger

    1. Bul_Gar:

      We have Cooling on pack.

      We have charger in vehicle.

      The Frame of 528i is NOT small and made of steel (Not aluminum). Car seats two (2) people..

      And you sir seem pessimistic.

      We are not trying to make a production car but rather simply demonstrate what Hybrid Recycling is capable of! Let’s not waste our eWaste but rather extract, and re-use parts that are new and/or fully working..

      Wait for next video.. Eventually you will come around. 🙂

  21. Vexar says:

    The P90D showed an initial state of charge of 250 miles of range, and it also shows a standard charge with mileage left at the top, so it is clear they didn’t do a full charge to 270 miles! Also? Come on, they drove it like a Tesla, and they drove the Bolt like a Bolt. I’ll bet you anything they had way too much fun driving the P90D. I will also believe that they put 250 pounds of equipment in the P90D for repairing their junker. There is a lot they can do to shimmy the numbers, like putting a leadfoot in the Model S:
    “I think you are talking about the “Tesla P90D” which did 238.2/Mi and should have done 270+ Mi. We will run the tests again soon and change the drivers. ”

    You want some irony? Tesla Roadster with the battery upgrade gets 340 miles of range:
    https://electrek.co/2016/07/08/tesla-roadster-3-0-battery-upgrade-r80/

    1. Vexar,

      1. We had a tow truck flat-bed that you see in the end of the video carrying all the tools.
      2.) All cars were empty of any/all removable weight.
      3.) Paul Perlman drove my P90D Tesla and if you knew the guy; you’d know he is the OPPOSITE of a “Lead Foot”.. haha
      4.) I took the Tesla into a dealership and they quoted that my battery had degredated by 12% since leasing the vehicle 1.4 years ago. This is why the “estimated Range” showed up at 250 Miles.
      5.) Most Important: ALL VEHICLES WERE DRIVEN AT THE SAME SPEED, ON THE SAME ROADS, IN SAME CONDITIONS. Thus TEST IS REAL.

      1. Stay tuned to the YouTube channel –

        Does anyone reading this have access to a P100D or 100D so that we can us their vehicle for the next test?

        We want to find a P100D or 100D and drive it with The Phoenix from LA to Sacramento and around the state capital to bring awareness to the power of EV’s & Hybrid Recycling!

        WHO WANTS TO COME WITH?? : )

        1. Mark.ca says:

          Best of luck, Eric. Looking forward to see your numbers.

  22. JimGord says:

    At 2:43 of the video, the Leaf is missing a charge bar (the first bar is 15% of battery capacity). What else is wrong with these comparisons?

  23. Djoni says:

    Great work Eric & co!

    I note the Leaf has one bar gone, so only between 85 and 80% of original capacity left.
    Most probably, a 24 kWh pack with 16.5 kWh usable.
    What about the P90D?

    Just asking, not casting any shadow over your achievement.

  24. JoseBQ says:

    As you report, each car drove at a slightly different speed, so I assume they were not driven at the same time one following the others…

    Thaens that temperature, wind speed and others may be different.

    Also, how do you know the REAL speeds?

    Usually speedometers lie something like 10%. It seems that tesla speedometer is quite accurate so the REAL speeds were not the same…

  25. Robb says:

    Guys! He is not saying he has a production ready car he can sell you for under 14k. Or his car is better than any of the others. Just that he has access to scrapped batteries controllers and chargers, that he can and will sell for diy car, scooter, wheelchair projects or solar storage. He has the tools and equipment to break down and test the cells, and resell them for pennies on the dollar vs new. While he makes a buck, he diverts useful electronics and energy storage from landfill or recycling before their useful life is expended.

    Good stuff, and I hope the business thrives! If I wanted an electric S10 or an off grid solar system, I would add his contact to my rolodex!

  26. Brave Lil Toaster says:

    “Our battery pack is 125KWh”

    And if you pull the back seat out of a Nissan Leaf and stuff the back 3/4 of the car with degraded batteries until there’s no room for anything but rear-view mirror visibility, then yeah, you too can pull this off.

    But just like a convertible, it’s not exactly the most practical family car.

    1. dave says:

      Actually, if you google Nissan leaf, 48kwh you will find that Nissan engineers did that. and all they could fit in the leaf was 48kwh. and it went about 150 miles. a 4000 pound car with a 125kwh pack is pretty crazy good. the tesla 100kwh weighs about 5400 pounds.

  27. dave says:

    My question for Eric is a breakdown in cost for the 13k on the car. am curious what 125kwh recycled pack cost, the motor, the car itself ,controller, chargers, etc.

  28. Give him credit for trying. He’s not a car company.

  29. Knut Nyhagen says:

    Eric Lundgren, you must be of Swedish origin, as well as I am from Norway.

    And since you have Swedish roots I can inform everyone here that you are trustworthy. All of us Scandinavian are! 🙂

    I’m pretty amased by your project! I’m not sure you know it, but Norway has the highest density of Electric cars in the world, compared to population. And on that background I would be very happy to learn much more, and perhaps be able to build/rebild/recyckle some car for use in Norway. Range is very important in our country, due to mountains and fjords. 🙂

  30. Andy Morris says:

    I would like to hear more about the batteries and how they are configured for this car. Will you have an in-depth video on the batteries sometime soon.

    Love what you did and hope one day many more people can make a car like that for everyday use.

    Great vdieo..now just get EV-West to see what they can do with old batteries..

    Possibly have the two BMWs go for a long drive..

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